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August 11, 2005

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Dan

There is a cabal of elitists in the world who control the central banks in many/most countries. The currencies are printed and circulated at interest with no intrinsic value. These monies are loaned into circulation at interest and inflated over time. This scheme is designed to subtly seize the assets of any land so afflicted.

Governments are financed which impliment socialism and are not responsive to rights in an effort to perpetuate this scheme.Withn my country, the United States, our constitution does not allow fiat currencies, only species currencies, as a safeguard against such seizures. However, over the course of time, Congress was bought off via the lack of a restriction allowing them to issue "bills of credit." Now, both major parties have been bought off and the scheme continues in pertutuity.

One way to stop the evil governments in the Mid East and in Africa is to stop loaning them money and require them to affect capitalism for their funding. This will force them to free their countries and acknowledge rights.

Unfortunately, I do not see this happening any time soon as there is no shortage of people who just want power and to rule over their oppressed populations. The way to overcome this is to educate the new generation in the rational fundamentals of freedom, capitalism, and rights. My best suggestion is to study the non-fiction works of Ayn Rand.

---Dan

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--raf*

Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur

Nice thought: how can a haphazard groups of westernized liberals attempt to transform a society that rejects them on all levels? I just hope that answer is not "you can't".

The 'western' society concept does not exist. The societies that we consider to be 'west' are modern and not western. Qualifying them of western is often use to relativize their modernization in order to relativize the universal concept of liberal democracy and human rights.

European societies were 'western' a very long time ago, when they had a system of values that was not universal. With modernization, these values were replaced by democracy and human rights, and these societies evolved from western to modern. Same for Japan. It eve. The arab societies on the other hand are not modern but eastern meaning they still abide by their traditionnal, relative and non-universal system of values.

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Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur

Here's what I think Ammar. You need to refute the claim that modernization consist of westernization. Well start to explain that the West does not exist as a specific civilization.

The real western civilization, let’s call it Occident, existed when Ancient Europe was dominated and united by the church. It was a period when people could get burned because they were thinking differently. This looks like the Sharia, not like Civilization. The values of Civilization (or modernization if you prefer) came and updated all the old European culture. Since then, Europe kept some part of its culture that were not related to these old values (like food, language, architectural achievements etc…). Same for Japan : values were erased but the culture was kept.

The same will have to happen in the Orient (don’t accuse me of orientalism). Everything in the current culture that is not compatible with modernity must be erased. The same happened to the Western civilization. This is a modernization not a westernization process. Occident became the west, a geographical location nothing more. Old Orient needs to become the east.

To do that, you must attack the core of the oriental culture: its values. This will take time and will not be easy (it wasn’t easy to remove the old values in Europe). Attacking things such as corruption and nepotism is superficial. It is the values that must be changed, the kernel of Islamic identity. If it’s not modern (modern being defined by places like Europe, North America, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea etc...), it must be removed.

Huntington was wrong. All his civilizations are local. He failed to talk about the modern, unique and universal Civilization. Calling it western because it was discovered in Europe is a gross misrepresentation. People who mix between modernization and westernization do this on purpose, to present universal values as relative.

In other words you need a cultural revolution to reject the archaic order.

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