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July 24, 2006

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Solomon2

How far can you go? Can you go all the way and ally with Israel?

Philip I

Ammar:
Interesting post and good to bring out the hidden dangers of war and social problems that may linger on for years afterwards.

Solomon2:
nice try. Allying with Israel is not something that the typical Syrian democrat or dissident would contemplate. The reason is simple and has nothing to do with enmity or distrust.

we (and I don't pretend to speak for a definitive or identifiable group) find ourselves allying with like-minded people by default rather than design. Generally, these are people who are committed to democracy, secularism and social justice regardless of location, colour or creed.

We have a lot of work to do in Syria and many Syrian hearts and minds to win over. Alliance of Syrian dissidents with the "enemy" State of Israel, with all its institutions, history, policies and strategic plans is like a marriage of convenience between a mouse and an elephant. It is both absurd and irrelevant, not mention scary for both parties! Ghadry and Chalabi spring to mind.

Thank goodness for cyberspace. like-minded Israelis, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, Palestinians and Egyptians can all talk and test ideas and beliefs out in the open without fear or inhibition. They will be talking to each other as indviduals and the more people talk the more promising it is for the spread of democracy, secularism and social justice in the region.

It's a long march. One day, both Syria and Israel will find themselves embracing each other by default rather than design, but that cannot happen until they have put the Palestinian baby safely to sleep! A somewhat facetious answer, I know, but nevertheless sincere.

ghassan

It is not often that calculations made under conditions of war can lead to rational decisions. War Math is an oxymoron similar to the venerable Military Intelligence.

Oh how I long for the day when war would be an idearelegated to history books. The book Singularity Now promises that as of 2040 we might be able to live forever. I wonder whether I can make it in order to experience a world without wars and without war materiale.

Shady Zayat

@solomon2
This could've been a very smart solution if Hezbollah were really a "terrorist group implanted by Iran do destabilize the region and kill innocent Israeli civilians"
But in fact, the wide support that hezb has among lebaneses, makes it lean more to be: "national resistance forces, who are smart, strong, very effective in comparison with the Lebanese army and they were never part of the civil-war".
So trying to disarm Hezbollah the military way is enough to take the country back to the 80's.

Anonymous

I certainly cannot speak for the syrian people, but there's a technical detail that one should not forget: Israel occupies the Golan hights and has annexed it in 1981 and has no plans to return it any time soon. You draw your conclusions...

Philip I

Anonymous
No one is forgetting the fact that the Golan was lost in battle to the Israelis. Whether the Israeli government has formally annexed it or not is not relevant to the conflict and does not change the balance of power.

Ultimately, a diplomatic solution will be agreed when it suits both Israelis and Syrians. Never say never. At present, we have a job to do in putting our own house in order.

Fares

Ammar, Great post, it is so hard these days to be swimming agaisnt the current in Syria...the regime had managed to rally all people to an external enemy and divert all the attention from the disgusting domestic situation of oppression and extreme corruption. It is a very bad situation and I don't know how it will end.

Very interesting arguments philip, I am starting to be curious about your academic background!

PEACE and all liberals have my total support...

Ammar

Indeed, Philip, before we can reach out to outside, before we can effectively address the Golan issue, we do have to put our house in order. The Assads have had 30-odd years to effectively address this issue, and have failed to do it. It is time for their failure, which took place on many other fronts as well, to be addressed.

Solomon2

Philip I: Thank you for the best answer I've read yet.

shady zayet: it's easy to enjoy popular support from those who you hold a gun on and threaten to shoot if they do not please you. Let's hope Israel uses up enough of Hezbollahs armed assets to (1) let people make up their own minds, and (2) get the people to reconsider their support in the first place.

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